Full Tilt Money Withdrawal Problems

I've seen this industry at it's highest and lowest points. I got to see the poker rooms scatter like cockroaches when the UIGEA was passed. I also had funds seized for more than 6 months by the NY Department of Justice during Neteller's downfall.

A few weeks ago I had a check from Full Tilt bounce. It was returned stating "Account Closed". I thought this was a little bit odd, but it was the first time that this had happened to me in about 5 years of playing there. Full Tilt returned the funds to my poker account, and also sent an extra $100 for the inconvenience. I considered this ample and decided to go on my way.

It's important to note that at the same time...the U.S. government seized approximately 24 million dollars in funds from various bank accounts that Bodog held. One of the accounts that money was seized from was held at the Nevada State Bank. This is the same bank from which Full Tilt had issued my check that subsequently was returned.

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In the days that followed I put 2 and 2 together and realized that Full Tilt had likely gotten wind of the seizure and closed their bank account to protect the money that was being held there. I thought this was actually a pretty smart move. An American bank is probably one of the last places that I would want Full Tilt to keep my money. I'd prefer to go through the hassle of having a check bounce instead of dealing with another Neteller-like situation.

I requested another withdrawal by check which was approved several days ago. I was just informed through email that the second check which was reissued to me by FT is also going to bounce if I try to cash it.  Again, the funds have been returned, this time with an extra $25.

So what do I make of all of this? I'd hate to speculate as to how many bank accounts FT has opened and closed in the past few weeks. I know that I had 3 checks arrive within the span of about a week and they were all drawn from different banks. Two of them actually went through. Is 2/3 a good success rate for clearing checks?

It looks like FT is getting chased around by the powers that be in the U.S. The bad news is that I would expect this to continue for a few more months until things get sorted out a little bit more in Washington.

The good news is that things are starting to look better as far as legislation is concerned. Many of the proponents of the UIGEA are acknowledging that there are inherent problems with the bill, and online poker's future is starting to look a little brighter.

The other good news is that Full Tilt is willing to go to great lengths to protect their integrity, their players, and the funds that they are responsible for. I've never worried about my money on Full Tilt and I never will. I just worry about getting the money from FT into my pocket.

I've only taken a few minutes to look at the latest withdrawal options. I'd rather go donk off my bankroll than take the time to mess around with yet another third party money carrier. For the sake of my readers I wanted to check things out.

Altogether it looks like FT has eliminated their regular check withdrawal option. One option they are now offering is a cash pickup. They claim to have more than 100k locations where you can pickup your cash, including banks and convenience stores...after about 5 minutes of research I still haven't been able to find out exactly where I can go in my area to pickup my money. Maybe it's because I just woke up and I'm not too happy about the situation, maybe I'm just lazy. I'm gonna go ahead and rip-off a quote from the movie Office Space... "I'm not lazy, I just don't care."

There is also another withdrawal option...this one I think is rather comical. Player's can now use prepaid phone cards to deposit and withdrawal money. I suppose this is a rather clever attempt to dodge the UIGEA. In the end, I think it's only gonna buy them an extra few months of flying time under the financial radar.

The company running the phone card front is called Ultra Prepaid Phone Cards which is owned by a company named Angsana Overseas. It looks like they are being run from Singapore and I'm also told by their support staff that they have been operational for "more than 12 months". A few minutes of research shows that their domain was only registered last september (11 months ago). I suppose it's close to 12 months, and I'd hate to degrade an entire company because of 1 person's decision to round upwards over the phone. However, I'm sure you can tell that I'm not impressed thus far.

I haven't heard about too many problems like this on the other major sites (Bodog excluded). I've been spending most of my time playing elsewhere. This is partially because it is easier to move money around, it's also because the tournaments are much larger on Pokerstars. There are still several methods of moving money to and from the site. You can read up on the available options at Pokerstars here; Pokerstars

Feel free to enter some comments below if you've been having any problems.


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  • 8/7/2008 6:50 PM CheekyV wrote:
    Nice post punchy. So you say FT use banks from the US. Is that not a bit dumb considering the climate? My guess is that they are using a bank overseas and using numerous 3rd parties to write the nevada cheques, eihter way, the full system is a mess.

    I think the prepaid phone card Idea is pretty good for the occassional player, assuming the costs are reasonable. It might be difficult for a high roller. theres only so much calls a person can make.

    The paypoint idea seams the best option.

    Im based in the UK, we do not have the issues players from the US have. I find a week a long time to wait for payment.

    I dont thinks anything is getting better, infact they seem to be worse & the sites accepting US players less reputable.
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  • 8/8/2008 9:54 AM j davis wrote:
    The US department of 'justice' is totally out of hand. They are extorting millions from legitimate companies.This is a country that has 'moral' objections to online gaming but has no compunction about sending their military around the world to wreak havoc!
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  • 8/9/2008 1:42 PM mahan wrote:
    Homeland Security budget for terror in action. You can thank that stinking Bill Frist for this. What a waste of tax dollars. We need a real cleaning out of these religious nanny's at the justice department. Man, do I despise these virtuous hypocrites.
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  • 8/14/2008 9:33 AM YANIV wrote:
    I wait for a month now for a 2000$ check which has not arrived
    furthermore fulltilt support ignore me completely on this subject
    I strongly advise not to send money to thit site
    they don't even have a phone number which keeps the customer completely at their mercy
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  • 8/18/2008 1:42 PM Justin wrote:
    My friend just tried to withdrawal a check from his account and apparently after the email that said it was processing came he recieved another email that said basically all withdrawals will have to be at $250 or more, and that when you have the correct funds in your account to withdrawal you have to drive to a location (which they didn't give) to literally pick up the money from your account. I hope this doesn't happen to me because I just requested a check withdrawal of $105 last night and the chances of me getting up to $250 are slim to none. I always deposit $50, then as soon as I get to $100, I pull it all out. Then maybe a week later when I feel like playing cards again, I put $50 more back in. The one time I decided to build my funds up over $100, I got to $135 and it ALLLLLLLLL came crashing down hill from there. I think playing internet poker for high stakes is pointless. I've lost with quads to a straight flush a half dozen times, and I can't tell you how many times I've had a king high flush and had an ace high flush take me down. FTP is too much BSP (bull shit poker) to risk a high amount of money on...well atleast for me.
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  • 11/7/2009 9:41 AM Joe wrote:
    I just joined FT after I saw a televised poker tournament and someone wearing their shirt, so I thought it was on the level. I played free poker for a while, then decided to try a little money, so I deposited $300. Now after losing half I want to cash out, and the instructions are so much work and inconvenience you might have to sell your firstborn. I have lost so many high position hands to someone who goes all-in on 4th street and wins on the river. There is always a pause prior to doing so, it's almost like someone knows what cards are coming, heads up, stay away, go to a real casino.
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